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Jasmin Flori-Hess · Raindrop

30-minute intro call. Goal: understand her world, listen hard, and leave with one concrete next step. No offer, no deck, no pitch.
When
Tue 3 Nov · 9:30am PKT
Her time
2:00pm Darwin (ACST)
Length
30 min (her words)
Where
Who you are meeting
Jasmin Flori-Hess · Founder / CEO, Raindrop
Darwin, NT, Australia · ex-UBS Zurich · lived and worked in Zurich, posts in German too
LinkedIn · raindropme.com · CRM #479
Your stance
Founder to founder · curious engineer
8 years in engineering, last 2 in InsurTech. You turn unstructured documents into structured data people can decide on. That's all she needs to know unless she asks.
01The read in 60 seconds

Jasmin is a solo-started, now small-team founder (2–10 people) building an insurance ontology: AI that breaks policy wordings into clauses and maps covers, exclusions and definitions into a consistent structure that people and AI agents can rely on. She has just come out of a big POC under extreme pressure, is expanding to the US and Switzerland, is raising capital and hiring, and runs leadership on fractional people (CIO, CPO).

What this probably means for her right now

Demand is ahead of capacity. Guidewire Vanguard, InsurTech NY, a carrier POC, Buy Australian AI cohort, US launch partner talks. A tiny team can't onboard carriers, run POCs, raise and expand into three markets at once.

Trust is the product. She keeps writing about evidence, versions, provenance and "whose interpretation is your AI acting on". Enterprise carriers will ask her to prove accuracy. That's the pressure point to listen for.

02Her story
2017
Zurich

Corporate career

Senior Project Manager Education at AO Foundation (2017–19), then Marketing & Business Development, Philanthropy Services at UBS Zurich (2021–22). Background: corporate comms, change and project management in finance and medical services. Not an engineer, a builder of bridges and stakeholder trust.

2022
The spark

Career break in the outback → the problem

Six months travelling Australia with family. Insuring the trip, it took her 15 hours to analyse eight policies. That's the origin story; she tells it often. Attended the first Swiss InsurTech Hub Summit (Nov 2022) when the idea was called "Retja" (still the legal entity: RETJA Pty Ltd).

2023–25
Build

Founded Raindrop, seed round, launch

  • Founded April 2023 in Darwin.
  • Oversubscribed seed round, late 2024 (≈75% from Darwin investors) plus an NT Government innovation grant.
  • Platform launched June 2025 after testing with brokers, underwriters and insurers. Database then: hundreds of cyber, business, management liability and strata policies, 6,000+ extracted clauses.
  • Stated goal at launch: halve brokers' policy-reading time (≈30 hours/month saved).
2026
Breakout year

Momentum, fast

  • Aug: InsurPitch Sydney (Guidewire/PwC).
  • Sep: Guidewire Insurtech Vanguard. Only Australian insurtech in the InsurTech NY Match Program (one of 50). Pitched "a System of Meaning, not another tool that reads PDFs". Met a potential US launch partner, US VCs and their US lawyer.
  • Sep: Zurich trip, 6–9 meetings a day: Swiss market entry, research collaboration on her methodology, capital raising, possible hires. Joined Swiss InsurTech Hub.
  • Oct: Selected for Australia's first "Buy Australian AI Partnership" cohort (Stone & Chalk + National AI Centre). Top 10 go to a Commercial Accelerator in Feb 2027, and she wants in.
  • Oct: "Extreme pressure to deliver a big POC." Now done (that's why she said early November).
  • 2 Nov: Nominated Best Newcomer, Global Startup Awards.
03What Raindrop actually does

In her words: "We standardise, categorise and structure the wordings first. Then we take this data and build insurance intelligence in terms of relationships such as dependencies and triggers. A deep PDS analytics that can be used for building, analysing, comparing wording or embedded in existing claims and other workflow tech stacks." (her LinkedIn reply to you, Oct)

Piece
What it is
Insurance Ontology
The core IP. Three years of proprietary knowledge architecture mapping insurance concepts, clause types and definitions. She now pitches bespoke ontologies for carriers.
Standardise / "Droplets"
Any policy restructured into a consistent layout: coverage, exclusions, conditions, extensions, definitions, claims. Side-by-side comparison.
Neptune AI
Q&A assistant that answers only from uploaded policies and cites the source wording.
White-label API
Ontology licensed to tech platforms and carriers (broker portals, claims workflows, Guidewire ecosystem).
"System of Meaning"
The new positioning: insurance intelligence layer for people and AI agents, with provenance and versioning so interpretations can be reviewed and challenged.
Customers
Brokers: answers from their own policies, less reading time.
Insurers, MGAs, underwriting agencies: competitor benchmarking, product development, wording standardisation, court-ruling impact.
Tech platforms: ontology via API.
Numbers and claims to know
98% policy-mapping accuracy claimed for tier-one carriers (our research note, Oct). The website cites no metrics.
No named clients publicly. "Global insurers" and "specialist brokers".
Partners shown: Insurtech Australia, InsurTech NY, Swiss InsurTech Hub, Endava, Acs.
04Team and how she runs it
Jasmin Flori-Hess
Founder/CEO. Sales, vision, fundraising, partnerships. Non-technical by background, product-minded.
Jamie Smith · CIO (fractional)
Melbourne. Ex-CIO Hollard, ex-Accenture. Likely the technical decision-maker for anything you'd build.
Chris S. · CPO (fractional)
Joined around early Oct 2026.
Rest of the team
2–10 on LinkedIn. She's in "hiring conversations". Uses outside people (fractional execs, a US agency, US lawyer). She's comfortable with outside help.
05What's on her mind (from her posts)
A
27 Oct

"Whose interpretation is your AI acting on?"

When AI drives a claim decision, how do you prove it read the contract right: which policy version, which clauses, what's ambiguous, who approves? Cites AFCA seeing AI-generated complaints with wrong references, and the proposed General Insurance Code of Practice (submitted to ASIC 22 Oct). Raindrop = the interpretation layer with provenance and versioning. You commented on this one.

B
31 Oct

Adam Jacobs keynote: no "icky buzzwords"

"Slapping an AI wrapper onto an existing workflow often gets labeled groundbreaking innovation… solving a hard, neglected problem does. True value looks like fixing messy logistics, building durable processes, doing the unglamorous groundwork." She'll respect plain talk and dislike hype.

C
3 Sep

Domain context beats the model

Gallagher Re report: 99% of insurtech money going to AI; "thin wrappers" face platform risk. Her thesis: the moat is the ontology, not the LLM. Escaping "pilot purgatory" with enterprise partners.

D
8 Oct

Human in the loop

Funny post about an AI photo filter giving people new faces. Her lesson: set boundaries, always check the output, "big advocate for human in the loop and critical thinking". She cares about verification personally, not just as marketing.

06Your history with her
7–8 Oct
Aqsa sent the connection request; accepted next day.
14 Oct
You asked "policy verification or simplification?" She replied with the structure → relationships → intelligence explanation. You introduced yourself and asked for a chat.
17 Oct
"Under extreme pressure to deliver a big POC. Let's talk beginning of November."
by 30 Oct
You commented on her "Whose interpretation" post.
2 Nov
Congrats on the nomination → she booked "Tuesday 2pm for 30'" within 3 minutes. You sent the Zoom link.

She replied fast and booked herself. She's open. Don't waste it with a pitch; earn the second meeting.

07The 30-minute run-sheet

Rule of thumb: she talks 70%, you talk 30%. Every answer she gives earns one follow-up ("say more about that", "what does that cost you?"). Take notes on her exact words.

0–3
Open

Warm, human, short

  • "Congrats again on the Best Newcomer nomination. And you survived the POC!"
  • Set the frame: "I've got 30 minutes blocked. I mostly want to understand what you're building and where it's heading. Then we see if there's anything worth doing together. Sound good?"
3–10
Her now

The POC and the last 60 days

  • "How did the POC go? Who was it for, and what were they trying to prove?"
  • "What made it extreme pressure? Was it scope, the timeline, or the team?"
  • "What happens next with them: production, a paid pilot, or procurement?"
10–20
Go deep

Pick 3–4 threads, follow her energy

  • Accuracy and proof: "When a carrier asks how you know the mapping is right, what do you show them? How do you measure that 98%?"
  • New wordings: "What happens when a carrier's wording doesn't fit the ontology? Who catches it, and how long does onboarding a new carrier take?"
  • Change and drift: "When you change a model, a prompt or the ontology, how do you know nothing quietly broke?"
  • Team: "How's engineering set up today? In-house, Jamie, contractors? What's the bottleneck?"
  • Expansion: "US and Switzerland at the same time. What has to be true technically for that to work?"
  • Agents: "You're positioning for AI agents too. Are customers asking for an API/agent integration yet?"
20–25
Reflect

Play it back, then share one relevant thing

  • "So if I've got it right: [her top 1–2 problems in her words]. Is that fair?"
  • Only now, one short story: "We've been doing similar work for an insurance document platform: a 12-step extraction pipeline that went from roughly 70% to 90%+ correct, with quality reporting per layer so regressions show up before release." (Don't name the client.)
  • "How are you thinking about solving [her problem]? Hire, fractional, partner?"
25–30
Next step

Land one concrete, small step

  • Offer a choice, not a pitch: "Would it be useful if I [took a look at X / put together a short note on how we'd approach Y / jumped on a call with Jamie]?"
  • Agree a date before you hang up. Respect the 30 minutes: finish on time, even if it's going well. Offer to continue another day.
08Listening guide: what she says → what it means
If you hear…
It likely means…
Possibility (keep in your pocket)
"The carrier wants to see accuracy on their wordings" / "procurement wants evidence"
She needs proof she can hand to a risk or compliance team, not a demo.
Evaluation and evidence layer: golden datasets, per-clause scoring, regression reports she can show carriers.
"Onboarding a new insurer takes weeks" / "each wording is different"
Mapping is manual or semi-manual; it won't scale to the US.
Onboarding pipeline: automate ingestion and mapping with human-review queues and confidence scores.
"We're stretched" / "hiring is slow" / "Jamie's part-time"
Capacity problem. Roadmap slipping while she sells.
Dedicated engineering pod (overflow / extension of her team), working under Jamie.
"The POC partner wants it in their claims system / Guidewire"
Integration work is blocking a production deal.
Integration build: API, connectors, Guidewire marketplace packaging.
"Investors keep asking about defensibility / scale"
She needs technical credibility in the raise.
Architecture and accuracy story for the data room: measured, repeatable, auditable.
"Agents / MCP / customers want to plug AI into our ontology"
New channel, no bandwidth to build it.
Agent-ready API / MCP server on top of the ontology.
"We're fine, just busy"
No acute pain yet, or not trusted enough yet.
Don't push. Ask what the next 6 months look like and agree to reconnect at a real moment (raise closes, accelerator decision, US launch).
09Closing: how to get to work without pitching

The aim isn't to sell on this call. It's to leave with a reason for a second, scoped conversation, ideally with Jamie (CIO) in the room. That's where work gets closed.

Good next steps (pick the one that fits what she said)
"Send me a couple of wordings you've struggled to map and I'll show you how we'd measure them." (Small, free, shows the work.)
"Let's get 30 minutes with Jamie. I'd love to understand the pipeline properly."
"I'll write you a one-page note on how we'd approach [her problem], no strings." Then follow up with a scoped proposal if she likes it.
If she names a hiring gap: "Before you hire, want to try a small piece of it with us for a few weeks?"
Don't
Don't bring up pricing, rates or a deck unless she asks.
Don't use buzzwords ("leverage", "synergy", "AI-powered transformation"). She just wrote a post against them.
Don't question her 98% like a skeptic. Ask with curiosity about how it's measured.
Don't mention Auckland or claim a shared location.
Don't run over 30 minutes.
10Personal touches (use one, naturally)
Zurich: she calls it her former home. she signed off in Swiss German ("Chum bring en hei!") on rejoining Swiss InsurTech Hub.
Family: the kids came on the outback trip (home-schooling included); she brings back souvenirs for them.
Darwin pride: only Australian in InsurTech NY, NT-backed, 🐊 emoji.
Humour: the AI face-swap story. Easy to laugh with her about AI fails.
11After the call (same day)
Send a thank-you DM within a few hours that plays back one thing she said and confirms the next step and date.
Do the promised thing fast (note, wordings review, Jamie intro).
Send Claude the Fireflies link or notes → meeting #4 gets summary, next steps and outcome; a deal if there's real work; a dated follow-up task.
Keep engaging with her posts between meetings.
Sources: Jasmin's LinkedIn profile and posts (Aug–Nov 2026), Raindrop company page, raindropme.com, Insurance News (June 2025), Insurance Business, CRM contact #479 notes and messages. Prepared 2 Nov 2026 for Muhammad Asim. Internal only.